"It is however factual that those "civilians" WERE armed"

Now you are confused - those who were armed, were 'armed combatants' (thus legitimate targets according to the US), not 'civilians' - that's what the USA keeps telling us. Thus attacking those 'unarmed civilians' in the van was wrong.

I have found that those who cannot easily keep more than one idea in their head at a time, are not only either 'leftist' or 'rightist' or 'centralist', but inflexible 'fundalmentalists' who will twist even what they have said to justify their position, as long as they 'win'.


"What McCord's opinion of the incident and the decision to engage the van is, is irrelevant."

That is because it now conflicts with your omniscient view - you have previously claimed 'to have been there' and that those who have not 'do not know what they are talking about'. Now you reverse your position, so as to discredit 'one who was there' to justify YOUR position - one who was NOT there.


"No weapons were removed because they were not given the opportunity to do so. "

From where, by whom? Those who had carried the visible weapons were dead. Now you reveal your lack of humanity - your first thought is always for 'the weapons', not human beings in distress.


"You have obviously never heard 30mm cannon fire Lox especially not one firing at 600 rounds per minute."

"These ones were 5 km away - remember?" "in the middle of the other gunfire you allege was being heard at the same time?"

As I said, you can't hold more than one idea in your mind at once.


"some who openly admit that they could not watch the video coverage "

I watched it many times - the damn thing was replayed on EACH of the 3 commercial channels and each of the ABC channels and on both SBS channels almost every foreign language news broadcast (the visuals don't need even subtitles) - and often in full many times on Aussie TV. I used to love 'war movies' as a kid - my dad who had been in the RAAF did not really like the 'battle scenes', faked even though they were. He died long before 'realistic battle scenes' existed in movies.

"As for the actions of the van driver, he knew or should have known that he should not remove anything or anybody from the scene, that should have been left to the authorities as Mr McCord says."

Ah the poor 'dumb trooper' 'who was there' - sorry mate you just said his opinions were 'irrelevant' - the US military - or ANY military is not God, though they often act as though they think they are. Just who the bloody hell are 'the authorities' in a 'disputed war zone' anyway - God's Police the Yanks? In YOUR mind, yes.

"As for the actions of the van driver, he knew or should have known that he should not remove anything or anybody from the scene"

Omniscient again, I see. Just stand there with you and let them die in front of you? Once again, you have just said that you would refuse to give aid to those in distress in front of you.

but cold hearted bastards like YOU would not help but just stand there, laugh and say "Die you heathen bastard"?, am I wrong?

Yes Fool you are wrong, completely wrong. But please do not let that stop you from putting words into my mouth and attributing to me views that I myself do not hold.