the critics of the catholic church are not bigots joe, the continuing attack on the abused is despicable and the organization id clearly immoral not amoral.. we had decades of scandal in eastern canada leading to recent settlements. at every stage the catholic authorities covvered everything up.

the bishop of antigonish , back in the seventies , published an article in the local newspaper complianing, amomg other things, that little girls try to seduce priests. he reamined there untill several of his priests were finally convicted of criminal offenses. after he had covered up many earlier ones. unbelievable conduct for a bishop and unbelievable conduct by his superiors when many complained about his artiilce and attitudes. the whole organization is corrupt and evil, and desparately needs yearts or LISTENING, and an independant truth and reconcilliation commission.

and especially with the murder of about fifty thousand native children. never reported nor recorded in church records , they just didn\t return and the church still won\t reveal where the bodies are. the canadian government kept records separately but also destroyed them , realizing that they might be a problem someday. lucikily the university of british columbia kept copies in their historical archives. the churches(the anglican and united church of canadas also were involved in these residential schools)and the government threatened to sue for the records.. to their credit ubc sent copies to dozens of universities all over the wolrd. they said they are not in the business of destroying historical documents.

the churches always claimed that the government asked them to do all this. but those records showed that they petitioned the government for decades to get power over natives. including judicial power. they routinely criminally charged the pagans and fined them by taking their land. these churches still hold thousands of acres of illegally gotten native land or sold it to cronies for a pitance in return for donations or government influence.

this has all been publishes and no libel or slander siuts ahve come from the churches--they know well they will be cross examined in open court.

these churches denied native children health care and death rates of fifty per cent resulted. this happened up to the mid to late seventies. they routinely put the children infected with smallpox and tuberculosis in dorms with the un infected. of course they all get the illnesses. the superintendent dr bryce said the care was "criminl" and they hounded him from government service and eventually from the medical profession. at every stage the churches used their power to avoid responsibility for sexual abuse and murder.

i used to see the native kids get off the school buss with dozens of black and blue bruises.

time for catholics to shut up and listen listen listem for years. and make attonement to natives rtather than fight the claims at every turn. they still haven\t returned the bodies.

these churches are immoral. if they want to regain any claim to morallity they need to attone on a very massive form, and at the very least nstop calling the critics bigots