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Thread #127384   Message #2913380
Posted By: Lox
24-May-10 - 05:01 PM
Thread Name: BS: 'Some rape victims should take blame'- ??
Subject: RE: BS: 'Some rape victims should take blame'- ??
"do judges get to know of a defenadants 'previous' before verdict? Would they remain impartial if they did know of previous offences? Would having a previous offence mean they could no longer be innocent of charges in the future?"

Currently in British Law, previous accusations can be used as evidence to support a sexual assault or abuse charge.

That was how my friend managed to get her abuser convicted.

The testimony of a critical number (I'm afraid I don't know what that number was) of unconnected or loosely connected women was considered good evidence, even though on a case by case basis it was only his word against each victims.


In terms of capacity, I seem to remember reading some research recenly which showed the whole "I was drunk and didn't know what I was doing" excuse to be a load of bollocks.


In the case of Dons story, we reman in the dark about the key part of the story.

Did Jack have Tony's consent when he penetrated her.

I have been in many similar circumstances and on occasion the girl I was with said that she didn't want to go all the way despite having been very intimate with me.

The reality of that situation has no bearing on the myth that hot testosterone turns off the brain and conscience.

In fact, to have gone ahead and done it anyway would have required me to make a decision to ignore her and force her to do what I wanted.

There is no way that such a decision could be confused with "getting carried away" as couples sometimes claim to do together.

Undressing someone and positioning them and oneself to be able to engage in sexual intercourse can be a complicated procedure when both partners are consenting.

The decision to rape would have to be cold blooded and cruel. There is no "I got carried away" about it. Such ideas of loss of control belong to rape fantasies and have no bearing on reality.

Men are no more animalistic than women.

Just as black men and white men are no more animalistic than each other.

Such stereotypes are pathetic excuses built on public prejudice.

There is no evidence to support those prejudices, except in the testimonies of rapists who play on those prejudices to get away with their crimes.