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Thread #129916   Message #2921297
Posted By: John P
05-Jun-10 - 01:08 PM
Thread Name: BS: Open Carry: Guns in Public
Subject: RE: BS: Open Carry: Guns in Public
I am saying that "the people" refers to all of us as a group. We, as an aggregate, are guaranteed the right to form an armed militia.

Everywhere that the Constitution and the Bill of Rights discusses an individual, the individual is referred to as a "person". Everywhere that it discusses all of us as a group, we are referred to as "the people".

Examples:

Article 1, Section 2:
"the House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of several States"

"No Person shall be a Representative . . ."

Article 1, Section 6:
"no person holding any Office under the United States . . ."

Article 1, Secion 7:
"But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by Yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill . . ."

Article I, Section 9:
"The Migration or Importation of Such Persons as any of the States now existing think proper to admit . . ."

"no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present . . ."

Article II, Section 1:
"No person except a natural born Citizen . . shall be eligible to the Office of President."

Article III, Section 3:
"No person shall be convicted of Treason . . ."

Article IV, Section 2:
"A Person charged in any State . . ."

Amendment I:
"the right of the people peaceably to assemble"

Amendment II:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people . . ."

Amendment IV:
"the right of the people to be secure in their persons . . ."

amendment V:
"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime"

"nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy"

Amendment IX:
"The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

Amendment X:
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution . . . are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."

In addition, the Militia is mentioned several times in the Constitution, and the context makes it clear that what is being referred to is what we now call the Army and the National Guard.

Finally, even if you don't buy the obvious difference between "a person" and "the people", what do YOU think the militia clause in the 2nd amendment means?