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Thread #129840   Message #2923863
Posted By: Lox
09-Jun-10 - 09:29 AM
Thread Name: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
Subject: RE: BS: New Israeli atrocity: attack on Gaza aid
"Lox, they would have heard shots from the boats and seen them fired.
Do you accept that was a lie?"

"it is very hard to believe that the narrator and those around him were oblivious"

Keith.

First they commented that there were ALREADY numerous injured passengers on both sides of the boat.

Then they commented that this number was increasing.

The deplored, bewailed and bemoaned this tragedy and hoped there would not be more injured, but were shocked to report that the numbers were increasing.

Then AFTER that they commented that canisters were being dropped onto the boat.

This is hardly evidence that they were oblivious to anything.

They weren't oblivious to it, they were REPORTING IT.

As for the other alleged lie,

I don't think we can say that the video proves there were no shots from the boats.

Keith - ever been on the deck of a ship going at full speed? In this case with two noisy helicopters 20 or 30 metres overhead, numerous powerboats with large engines on all sides, and the sea wind whippping any sound from those boats back and away from the ship, and the noise of the Mavi Marmaras engines and the melee of scared passengers and reporters on board, we cannot say that not hearing such shots is evidence that they didn't happen.

The reporters are shouting to be heard on microphones they are holding next to their faces.

If the video doesn't prove that no shots were fired from the boats, then it doesn't prove that testimony to be aa lie either.


Sorry, but there is no evidence of lies being told about shooting yet.

There is evidence to corroborate the passengers testimony though.



So Two legs, four legs, whatever thats all about, is of no interest to me.

Your attempt to discredit the passengers testimony has utterly failed.