Ebbie....none of those guys you listed qualify. Not one. What we are talking about here is a brand new Christian ministry, a born-again ministry that is OPENLY run by a gay pastor who is proud of being gay and doesn't hide it. Nor does his congregation object to him being openly gay, because they too are either openly gay or they are people have no objection to it. This ministry would broadcast via the TV, thus becoming the first OFFICIALLY gay television evangelism program in the USA (or anywhere).

That is what we're talkin' about here, Ebbie. That is the whole point of this thread. We are NOT talkin' about closet gays in the church who try to hide their gay affairs or whatever. No siree.

You have missed the point of this thread by a country mile. Go and say 50 "Hail Marys" or something like that and attone for your sins of misconception, madam! ;-D

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Osama Bin Forgotten can't qualify either, Bobert. He's not Christian.