My first band was with my high school friend and great guitarist, Brent Chilton. So we were usually Brent Chilton and Phil Cooper, except when we called ourselves Traditional English Disco (it was 1978) or TED. Once we billed ourselves as the Rip-off Park Pig Fuckers, but no one would call us that. We did sing songs like Sally Free and Easy and The Poor Ditching Boy. To quote Richard Thompson, "We were drinking more in those days..."

Had a good time, but a move and marital problems brought the band to an end.