We have succeeded in reducing drink-drive casualties significantly in this country whilst keeping the 80mg limit. Making drink-driving socially unacceptable is by far the best way forward. We don't want to scare law-abiding people who like a few pints into thinking they daren't drive to work the next day. That would be repressive. One of the "beauties" of the limit is that no-one really knows how much they can drink before they get there. I haven't a clue, but I imagine it would be different on different days. If I go to a session and I'm driving it's two quick pints for me (nothing over 4%) then nothing for three hours before setting off home. I operate on the assumption that there's a game chance I'll be well below the limit. I know I'm compromising but, as has been pointed out above, I'm compromising when I drive tired, drive after a row, drive when I'm late, drove when the kids distracted me, drive whilst unwrapping Werthers' Originals, drive whilst changing a CD. Most of the death crashes round here seem to be caused by inexperienced young men driving fast cars. There are plenty of things we could do to get the death statistics down that we tend to ignore. We let people drive for life after passing a simple test and we put no pressure on people to improve their driving once they've passed. We assume that they will remain physically and mentally fit to drive for the rest of their lives. That's just scandalous.