"You and Lox must accept it is a lie."

Where is your proof that it is a lie?

We have consistent, corroborating eyewitness testimony from hundreds of passengers, from all sorts of different backgrounds, be they Impartial News reporters, International parliamentarians, Turkish Aid workers or political protesters.

The question is whether or not the other available evidence damages their testimony that live fire was used before the troopers came aboard.

So far, this testimony remains undamaged.

So we have no evidence of lies other than faked evidence from the IDF.


"Lox, why do you think the boat video is fake?"

I believe I gave a quick rundaown of this in an earlier post.


"A circular splatter will only occur if the paintball ( with whatever content) impacts on THAT surface- if it impacted on a person, the excess would spray off in various patterns- dependent on the volume and the viscosity of the fluid."

There isn't that much paint in a paintball.

To produce that kind of spillage you'd need a big baloon to be thrown.


Why this talk of hydraulic fluid?


But lets get to the point - Keiths observations from the video ...

... one guy says - "is that Blood".

Another guy, about 15 feet away from the ladder, says that he doesn't think it is as he doesn't think they're using live fire, but it just paintballs.

He doesn't analyze it closely, nor comment on the behavuour of the liquid as we have ... largely because there was a helicopter above hs head, a navy surrounding him, and a lot of scared people around him.

A minute later, he sees a lazer sight, and ducks, and then makes a comment in his own language, in which iit discernable that he is reporting that the Israeli's could be using live fire or it could be paintballs.

Within a space of about 30 seconds he sees what could be blood and then a lazer sight, and then starts to keep his body down and covered as the possibility that he could be in the line of live fire dawns on him.

Keith, if this is 'proof' that accusations of use of live fire are a lie, then I am a monkeys uncle.


Keith, to clarify my position visavis your posts here and elsewhere, I think you are dishonest to say present yourself as an imaprtial critic with no allegiance, and to criticize otherrs of being partisan, when it is so clear that you are defending the side of the argument you are obviously loyal to right down to the wire.