their own projectiles going back to them.''

This is exactly what I said was happening, and you said I was wrong. I said they were lobbing the stun grenades back at them, and you said I was wrong. If you want to accept this guy's version of events, you have to concede that I was not wrong.

I don't dispute the fire hose thing, though. The passengers testify that they were using fire hoses on the zodiacs. But if the Israelis don't want to be soaked with a fire hose, all they have to do is get out of range of them. That's not at all hard to do. They don't have to fire live ammunition to defend themselves from water from fire hoses. Especially since they weren't even on the ship when the fire hoses were being trained on them.