"I for one don't necessarily buy that poverty and associated 'pressures' causes a culture to normalise sexual violence against women."

Nor do I, Crow Sister, and I never said that it did. Nothing normalizes sexual violence against women in a society. It's considered a crime in every human society on Earth. Conditions of dire poverty in a nation usually lead to a great deal more violent crime, however, which can include...more rape. The formation of many armed gangs in places like Somalia, Jamaica, Haiti, and South Africa leads to a great deal more violent crime of all kinds, including rape.

How does one solve it?

Well, there are no perfect solutions, are there? There are a multiplicity of partial solutions, and there is no complete solution. Nothing we can do will EVER totally end the occurence of rape.

"A third of the male population of SA does not constitute "a few individual rapists", it constitutes an extremely high percentage of the population, ie a third."

That's absolutely right. However, you are misinterpreting the meaning of my statement to suit your own argument. what I was suggesting was that a relatively few individuals would actually get caught by that device....or by any other specific entrapment or discouragement tactic aimed against rapists. Most of them will not get caught, and they will quickly find ways to avoid getting caught as soon as the device becomes at all well known...and they will still do whatever they are inclined to do anyway.

And I'm suggesting that the main charge people are getting out of venting on this thread has very little to do with actually solving any existing social problem in South Africa. It has mainly to do with people getting some transitory emotional satisfaction out of imagining something really nasty happening to a rapist.

And I can relate to that!!! I hate the idea of rape so much that I would happily see most rapists tossed into a live volcano or ripped apart by wild dogs. Hanged. Shot. Guillotined. Drawn and quartered. Got that? In my emotional self I have utterly no mercy or sympathy for rapists.

So I feel the same way many of you do about that, probably.

But I don't expect civil laws to conform to my violent emotional reactions on such matters. The law should be decided by cooler heads, not by people in a rage following some horrible incident.

The only reason I have posted here on this thread at all is this: I do not see this device as a terribly smart or effective way to deal with rape, and if I was in government, I wouldn't rush to promote its use. Neither would I ban it. It's entirely up to the woman who wants to use it, and if she does want to...fine with me.

Ask yourself why you are posting here. What for? Why do you bother? How does it change anything? Does it give your busy mind something to chew on? I keep posting here at this point mostly just in an effort to actually be understood (a chore akin to emptying the sea with a bucket around here), and because I apparently don't have enough sense to say to myself, "Oh, the hell with it!" and go off and do something far more productive and enjoyable with my time.