Murray: Times change, I guess. I left town and the Cage stopped having folk songs. That's the place where the owneress, Esther demonstrated how to play guitar when you're 12 or 13 months pregnant. I'll never forget. (Side saddle, of course). Sunday afternoon round-robin was what I enjoyed most.

There was one in front of the University dorms. They usually had Joe Aaronson. Couldn't afford 'names' no way! But those were the only two, I think, that one might call 'coffee houses.' There were a number of clubs - listening rooms rather than sharing rooms. I most often went to The Second Fret downtown. I would often tape the act (McCurdy, Terry/McGhee, Bibb, etc) and interview them and use that for most of my show. That's why I got to get in free - I'd mention the club.

Then there were several much further out east - servicing - what? - Swarthmore? I almost never strayed that far.