"Jim, what does that mean - "it has served the revival pretty well"?
I've heard it in pretty well every folk club I've been involved with for the last forty-odd years - even the 'trad only' ones, and the ones Bert never set foot in.
"bet he couldn't have passed off...."
and you continue to make definitive (and unqualified) statements as to its origin - but I forgot - that's what you always do, isn't it.
If you have any evidence that the rest of us don't on the origins of the song, let's have it - won't hold my breath.
I hope you're not suggesting 'Jack Orion' to be a fake - it isn't, Lloyd adapted it from Glasgerion; quite skilfully, in my opinion, though I much prefer MacColl's.
Still don't know why anything Lloyd might have written doesn't fit your definition of 'folk' - and I don't suppose I ever shall.
Jim Carroll