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Thread #130487 Message #2936965
Posted By: Jack Campin
29-Jun-10 - 08:38 PM
Thread Name: Trad Irish songs, rebel & other... help
Subject: RE: Trad Irish songs, rebel & other... help
Actually, I'm Scottish and have an interest in the music of my ancestors. I also have Irish relatives and friends who are part of the struggle for Irish independence, so there's an emotional and personal investment there.
It's a cold cert that you also have relatives in Ireland and elsewhere who were part of the struggle AGAINST Irish independence. Nobody outside the deranged fantasies of a fascist has an ideologically pure family tree. So if your genes are telling you what to sing, they'll be telling you to sing along with the Rangers end of the ground as well.
One of my great-grandfathers was an Irish peasant from Mayo who joined the British Army at 14. So did a lot of Irishmen - far more than ever joined Irish-nationalist organizations at the time. Like the shits who join the British Army today, he saw it as a job. And got a medal for killing Afghans, just like lots of the mercenary psychos who make up the British and US armed forces right now.
I guess I must have some relatives from over there who were on strike with Larkin and fought with the IRB. Ireland's a small place and everybody is related to everybody else. But I've got no interest whatever in locating people in my family tree to feel warm and fuzzy about. Seems to me that taking an appropriate moral stance about my opportunistic murderous shit of a great-grandfather is a bit more relevant to the present day, seeing as how the official ideology says people like him are "our troops" and "heroes". Fuck that. They're killing, torturing and thieving for hire.