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Thread #130131   Message #2941932
Posted By: Jim Carroll
08-Jul-10 - 03:17 PM
Thread Name: BS: Bloody Sunday Report - AT LAST
Subject: RE: BS: Bloody Sunday Report - AT LAST
"common here, that NI would leave the UK."
Then you agree that Britain should have the option to vote on whether to intervene militarily, I take it?
"That is why I kept emphasising your illiberal attitude here."
I'm afraid infantile name-calling won't do - if my views are illeberal, counter them instead of relying on behaviour that belongs in the schoolyard. As you continue this behaviour here, that negates everything you say anyway.
If it is 'fascist' to suggest that the Republic should have a say in whether it continues to have six of its counties usurped, then I wouldn't begin to know how to describe the suggestion that the people of the UK should have NO say in whether they send their children and their money to support a regime that has kept one third of its population under its thumb as I described above.
"They do agree that a united Ireland shall be brought about only by peaceful means with the consent of a majority of the people...."
No argument as long as that consent is sought under normal circumstances (not after a bloody, twenty-odd year long war where both sides were traumatised into submission) and as long as the WHOLE OF THE POPULATION OF THE SIX COUNTIES HAVE AN EQUAL SAY IN THE PROCEEDINGS. This has yet to happen - power sharing is nowhere near in place yet, and the Unionists continue to behave like thugs towards the Catholic third. If you believe that the situation in the State is 'normal' I suggest you take a look at the Orange marches or the Belfast riots but more typically, try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Cross_dispute - (or simply search for Holy Cross dispute.)
Any decision on the permanent or continuing partition is bound to produce a distorted result in the present situation and is certain to lead to further violence in the future.
"Picking out those bits and challenging them all would require an even longer post"
So you can't even be bothered - says it all really.
"If you want my response, maximum of two points per post please."
Pathetic - but you choose.
You continue to feed off the posts of others, you have no ideas of your own and display no knowledge of the Irish situation - wonder if you support Celtic or Rangers - let me guess....
Jim Carroll