And furthermore, it is the height of bad manners according to my rulebook to insult someone's heritage, cliched or not. And who knows how much I engage with Irish American culture? I live in a place populated by Finns and I hope to make it to Finnfest next week. Sometimes all people have is little memories or little snippets. Sometimes their culture was stamped out. Sometimes they were too ashamed of aspects of it and denied it. Sometimes they married out of it. All sorts of reasons to not have the full throttle approved cultural heritage. Does not excuse insulting someone's heritage, broken and spotted as it might be. mg