"Why did you reopen this old thread Jim?"

It's not an "old" thread Keith, some of us are still following it.

I'm open minded (I hope). I'm not a major contributor, I dip in and out. But, I'm one of those for whom these discussions are actually genuinely useful and meaningful, because I learn from them, rather than gaining debating points from them.

Before I came to this discussion I didn't know what I thought about Isreal. I didn't event think about Isreal, bar having a few English Jewish friends who seemed quite anti whatever it was their culture was traditionaly about.

Let me tell you, I feel very differently now.