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Thread #80995   Message #2952101
Posted By: ollaimh
25-Jul-10 - 06:26 PM
Thread Name: BS: Livin' with Black Bears Question....
Subject: RE: BS: Livin' with Black Bears Question....
i used to live in the high british columbia rockies back decades ago.
we had an immediate neighbour who riased malamutes, we usuall had seven or more at a time. bears stayed away,

however you do have to train them not to chase bears, id they catch it they will get injured and run right back to you with the bear in chase. this goes for any doges. malamutes are smart and trainasble but very wildn so you need some dog mastery or they will run your life.

the guy with a 44 magnum, good luck. you can't kill a grizzly with anyn hand gun unless you get the shot of a lifetime right innt eh cemntre of the heart or brain. even an off centre hit on brain or heardt a grizzly has been known to run of a further quarter mile at thirty miles an hour and very angry. your really are better off with bear spray quality pepper spray or a real hunting rifle--but the rifel only of you really know how to use it. wounding a grizzly is usually a death sentece for both of you.

you are more likely to survive a grizzly arract by rolling in a ball and staying calm(not easy) than wounding the bear. small grizzlies can clomb trees and big ones can knock them down so better to back off slowily and have pepper spray att hand.

now we had well trained dogs and were brutasl with garbage regulations and we rarely had any bear trouble. more than once we met tourists wanting to hike to see the grizz. i'd just shake my head. when assjed directions i'd say"we don't hike in their territory and hopefully they won't hike in ours"

they were c locall ycalled fool killers. most deaths weretoruists hiking in grizzly country.
grizzlies are territortial. when in their own territory they are very agressive, but their home territory is mostly up high and remote. they seem to really hate humans and other bears and try to live alone except when mating. when crossing your territory foraging they are much less agressive. i watched a neighbour shout at one till it left(i ran for the high powered rifle but didn't need it). but it was in his garden and it knew it was out of its territory. it was going down to get the salmon run.

if you want to see a lot of bears at once find the local salmon run--i don't advise it but i did it carefully once from a cliff above. hundreds of bears catching and eating. the grizzliesa and the black bears stayed on opposite sides of the river, and the mothers were fattening up the young so they were too preoccupied to notoce people. still i wouldn't go down and fish.

generall if you don't do dumb things you have no trouble. grizzlies do bnot hibernate all winter. they get up once or twice to fatten up again. yu really don't want to meet one then. so when cross country skiing still keep you eyes open, and take a trained malamute. the dog will notice the bear long before you do. i was up high once with three senior dogs(the best trained) and one grumbled and i looked down about a thousand or fifteen hundred feeet, and there was a grizz standing and sniffing the air. bead of winter and lots of snow. i skiied about five miles out of my usualy way to get home.

bears don't like horses as stated but if a bear sppoks a horse you're in trouble. two ranchers i knew dies that way. they weren't found for months when people noticed the smell. the grizzly will burry a corpse to soften it up for later.

on the whole though they were intertaining neighbours as long as you strictly do not feed them or put any garbage or compost anywhere they can smell or get at