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Thread #131036   Message #2953008
Posted By: JohnInKansas
27-Jul-10 - 04:59 AM
Thread Name: Tech: Formatting in MS Word or Open Office
Subject: RE: Tech: Formatting in MS Word or Open Office
Kat -

Obviously you don't recognize the enormous improvement made in Word 2007. There are only about 70 to 90 icons in each of the 6 to 8 top menus, and a bright person like you should have no problems finding the one you want, even if they did change the names for them all.

The trick with headers, if you want the same header across multiple sections is to put the header in before you make any section breaks. This is supposed to give you a default for the subsequent sections to have header (and/or footer) "Same as Previous" except that now it's called "Link to Previous" since that's so much more informative and descriptive.

If you start in the first section of the document and double click on the header area it should open the appropriate menu, which is on the "Design" tab and the "Header Footer" popup button since that's so much more "intuitive" than the old "Page Layout."

You should see a box where you can go "next section" or "previous section" or switch between header and footer. If you click to "next section" and then click the "Link to Previous" it should make both sections have the same header. If you have multiple sections and the headers are different, you may have to step through the sections one at a time and link each one back to the preceding one.

Note that you should be able to just double-click back to the body of the page to get out of the header/footer "design" menu as in older Word versions, but often that doesn't seem to want to work, so you may have to actually click on the "close header/footer box," which of course is a button that is NOT IN THE USEFUL PART OF THE HEADER FOOTER BOX area on this "ribbon" ("ribbon" is so very much clearer than saying menu) but is at the far right of the "ribbon," which in this case is actually a "Box."

They were considerate enough to make the "close" button glaring red (in my color setup) so that it would immediately attract your attention and distract you from finding the tools you'll mostly want first; but that's just because they know more than you do about what's "efficient."

You should be able to just type the header you want in the first section and then "link to previous" in all the subsequent ones to get them all the same. Note that you may have to link all the headers and then separately link all the footers.

Note that when you link to previous when the two headers are different, both headers are supposed to become the same as the original first one, but for some unknown reason, even in older (useful) versions of Word, sometimes they both became same as the later one. Check what happens and start over at the beginning (or end) section as necessary if this happens.

It's claimed that you can use tabs and carriage returns (Enter), and even text boxes and frames, etc., in the headers or footers to separate the page number from the header/footer text or to include logos/icons etc.

There are options to make the headers/footers different for odd/even pages, or to have it change with outline title/subtitle changes in the body text, and this may be why you see changes in the page number format (invisible is a format) but those settings must be elsewhere - perhaps in Page Layout (which is no longer really page layout) or in some other place where they've moved it for your convenience.

For simple page numbering I've found it more reliable to insert a "Page" Field (or a "Seq") rather than using the "Page Number" clicky they've built in, but it's rather obscure where the "convenient" place for doing that has been moved. (The automatic page numbers clicky does have some pretty uses, but generally not for me.)

Should you have an interest in using Fields, Alt-I, F (for Insert Field) still seems to open the list of fields. Click on Page for the Field type and then hit the "Options" button to choose format if necessary. (The field dialog box appears to be something they forgot to remove, despite it being quite handy and therefor something that should have gone away; although they did manage to hide it pretty effectively if you don't remember the shortcut.)

John