The Flight from NYC to Manchester starts at something like 8 pm EST and is 6/8 hours getting off the plane in the middle of the night and morning in Briton . We drove to Bill's house and had to go straight to bed so we were ready for the first nights music .. I would recamend to Max that morning of the 20th to get a 3 hour nap . Its worth it to enjoy that first evening .. Thanks to all the great Mudcatters who have been so nice to me on my trips and I know Max is going to have a blast .. All the best to all here .. Guy