"It is dishonest to claim they are "defensive"
Prove it; where is your evidence?
Your silence on everything else proves categorically that you are the supporter of war crimes.
"So we have Jim, the self proclaimed atheist, liberal, pacifist supporting war crimes committed by a right wing fundamentalist religious group."
The difference between you and me is that you have thrown your weight behind the Israelis, and I support none of them.
I said way back that I have no trust whatever in any political body which is tainted by religion "a volatile mixture" I think I phrased it.
Hamas was elected by the Palestinian people who felt that the previous Government was not giving them the protection they needed. As far as I'm concerned, Hamas is a buffer between the people and Israeli terrorism, no more.
You, on the other hand, have attempted to disguise Israeli terrorism with lies, distortions and evasions. You have ignored the evidence put before you and where you have had to put your money where your mouth is you have gone to great length to hide and explain away the atrocities - pretty much in the same way as you supported the religious fanatisc in Northern Ireland and the massacre of unarmed demonstrators in Derry by absolving Army officers from any responisbility for the actions of their men (whatever happened to 'the buck stops here?)
Now - let's hear it for the Shatila and Sabra massacres hip-hip.....
Brucie
"Regardless of what the biased witnesses have to say"
In matters like this all involved are open to the accusation of bias - it is a case of looking at as much evidence as possible and making up your own minds.
Teachers - doctors, nurses media cameramen and reporters making it up?
Sorry, I'll go with them rather than a regime that has lied and has been exposed as liars time and time again (oh, and has consistently used heavy weapons and chemicals on civilians and has been filmed doing so).
You choose your side I'll choose mine
And the Shatila and Sabra massacres - or are you going to chicken out like Keithie?
Jim Carroll