'And of course everything they say is a lie'

I have not said this - just that they have clearly stated ties to the IDF and the Israeli 'Intelligence community' - it is up to the reader to make up their own mind about any bias in their description of this charitable and legal organization.

As for Wiki - well the atatements are well referenced and come from a variety of sources (including the ITIC themselves, various press articles etc) - again the reader can check each of these out and reach their own conclusions as to any possible bias in reporting.

NOW can we please return this thread to the crisis in Pakistan?