Playing with better, or worse musicians - you learn something from each.

However, some musicians are not great and are aware of their shortcomings while others are crap and think they're world beaters.

While playing as a stand-in bass player with a band one night I couldn't believe how full of their own importance they were. It was all about how wonderfull THEY were, and believe me they weren't.

'We're really gonna show the other bands in this town how it's done,' was one of the comments. I couldn't help but comment, 'maybe, but first you'll all have to learn to start and stop at the same time.'