Gaint,

There is no debate.

There is you making unsubstantiated claims and trying to present them as fact.

And there is Emma providing us with the actual figures and telling us where she got them so we can go and see for ourselves if we want.


So now you say have have some more figures ... ?

... source please ...

oh but you don't have one ... just the BNP party info pack.


Well Gaint, it gives my great pleasure to inform you that I am a single parent, who is also a student and I am in receipt of top up benefits to supplement my grant and student loans.

And Camerons plans for october will not be ffecting me in the slightest.

So before you start posturing as a tory spokesperson of any sort, you might wish to inform yourself of their actual plans.

You are unlikely to find these in the BNP manifesto.

You stupid Gaint!