The Mid-East problem started in 1967 - Stringsinger

Wildly inaccurate and incorrect as that is, at least it sets a bench mark for discussion and possible negotiation.

1967 the year of the "Six Day War", when Israeli Forces recaptured Palestinian Land from those who invaded and occupied it in 1948. The Egyptians having occupied Gaza and the Jordanians who occupied the West Bank and part of Jerusalem.

Now for those who support a two-state solution which includes the Israeli Government (Recorded Fact - they agreed to the 1947 UN Proposal, the Arabs refused it). For that to come about Hamas; Fatah; et all + their backers have to sign up to recognising the State of Israel and the right of its citizens to live without fear of attack.

Right of return goes out the window unless a similar package is proposed for the Jews who were turfed out of their homes and robbed of their possessions throughout the Arab countries of the world, when the great Arab Palestinian "Land Grab" went tits up in 1948 and those troublesome Jews despite all the odds walloped hell out of those who sought to exterminate them and drive them into the sea.

"Palestinians" - a PR invention of that useless waste of space Yasser Arafat - having obtained their State will remain totally dependent upon Israel for commerce and employment, as neither Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon or Syria will entertain them, therefore the quantum shift in thinking has to come from the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah + all the other little terrorist groups that spring up conveniently like mushrooms to keep the whole pot-mess boiling.

Hamas duly and democratically elected by the sheeple of Gaza. Quite remarkable really as Hamas has never done anything for them and isn't about to start to do so now. It was not just the USA that objected to the Hamas Government, it also happened to be the United Nations - You cannot support a newly elected Government that has as a fundamental part of its Charter the demand for the annihilation of another State - That was why they were not recognised.

Nothing said on this thread or any other will alter the situation one iota, so if they would rather fight than talk let them fight and get it over with once and for all.