Many of your arguments hold water, Dan: but not this last bit ~~ laws against murder, theft &c, are not CHRISTIAN laws, specifically ~ and please don't cop out by saying you didn't say they were, just look back at your last sentence above: they are ones which must, & do, exist in all societies, not just Christian societies, just to enable them to function at all. You will find these two specified in the 10 Commandments e.g., btw, which are some 12 centuries pre-Christian, you know. Are you not in danger here of confusedly claiming all social morality to be Christian-based? Think about it.

~Michael~