And the thing about it Bill, if by definition it is or isn't a religion people have the right to believe in the non existence of God. It is their right. And that belief should be respected .. as long as the respect goes both ways for those who have faith in a God also .. The problems occur when my God can beat up your God or your non-God can beat up my God that people get upset, and go off on others even when they regard as friends and I do . I think I have proved it time and time again by actions here and not words..

I freely admit I am a crabby son of a bitch lately .. maybe I need a smoke .. but I tend to respect others and their path in life. I ask that others do that for me and the rest of us that do have a chosen path and pretty much mind our own business. You see for me, my faith is intensely personal .. and for those who knock on doors they couldn't be more wrong doing that .. Free will is the single most important concept in my faith .. Likewise It is wrong to berate others for their personal choices in life .. no belief system or non system is any better than another. It is all personal. When one tries to step on the others rights, then it becomes an issue of contention.