Apologies for any inanity or irrelevance, Steve. I'm just trying to follow the reasoning used by some of the posters on this thread, and relate it to my own experience, since it's sitting there handily.

Jim – I'm not making any claims to being a traditional singer. I'm not even claiming to be a singer. But if my mother got Dance To Yer Daddy from her mother, would that tot up to two generations in a living tradition? As for "training" in that tradition, what exactly does that involve? Who trained Fred Jordan?

Just trying to catch up...