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Thread #131665   Message #2976995
Posted By: Jim Carroll
31-Aug-10 - 05:42 PM
Thread Name: BS: Priest in 1972 IRA bombing: Another cover up
Subject: RE: BS: Priest in 1972 IRA bombing: Another cover up
"Some of the rioters were as young as eight. Others travelled all the way from Dublin, to take part in the organised chaos of Belfast's Twelfth of July."
All you have been able to produce is what I already know; that SOME young people were involved and SOME came from elsewhere to show support.
Once again you appear to be trying to make a point by distorting your own news announcements.
The bulk of the rioters were from Belfast - the police said that and the press reported that - your own cut-n-pastes have made my point.
"The remarks by Fr Gary Donegan were tongue-in-cheek,...."
He refers only to "most of the young rioters..." he does not in any way claim that these were the majority - other news reports say that most were adult and were local and that some carried guns.
Stop twisting the facts.
You appear to have dropped your claim that the treaty was signed under threat of invasion so I assume that you now accept it as fact; I did make a mistake, Lloyd George threatened invasion within 3 days and not the two weeks I claimed.
"The Prime Minister, of course, needed more than this: all must sign. If they did not, he solemnly promised that he would not even give them time to lay the matter before the Dail: it would be "war within three days," and war more terrible by far than any they had yet experienced. At 7:45 P.M., the meeting broke up. Griffith had agreed to sign; Collins appeared to hesitate only over the Oath; Barton, who came to this meeting as a sort of hostis curiae, had not committed himself at all."   
Perhaps you'd like to point out which of my contributions in particular are 'sectarian shit' Peter - I'm neither Irish not Catholic (atheist and British in fact) and I hold no brief for either Republican nor Loyalist violence. I believe that the trouble in Ireland stems from the setting up of an unbalanced sectarian state and it will not cease until that sectarianism is removed from Northern Irish politics.
Jim Carroll