**still reading, but sitting amused at the side of the room as everyone accuses everyone else of 'not paying attention' and 'misquoting' and other assorted bits of flawed reasoning.**

It sorta reminds me of a political discussion on "Meet the Press" or some other 'talking heads' TV show where they all yell their point of view at once while denigrating the others with rapier wits.

It's ok.. don't mind me. I'll have a beer while I listen....why, I might learn something.