Agreed,K/van, which was why I brought in Skynflynt last year- divided, the fee barely covered Rob's petrol... Nuala & David have done a terrific job in turning the Vaults round, and it was an unknown quantity- you'd not have had a singaround in there in previous years! And the Phoenix, the previous venue, was out of action. Both Sat & Sun morning sessions were workable, but on Sat we were asked to recommence in a room full of drinkers, which we did, and you may remember a couple of local girls who'd never sung doing so & dancing... I do agree that a quiet room is ideal for those that wish to play to each other and aren't concerned with outside events- and it seems there are venues providing this, so I can't quite see what the beef is.