///we all speak from our limitations but was half pleased by the admission that evolutionists adhere to their doctrine for not entirely science reasons-if i understand you correctly josep.to those alleging macro evoluton as established fact, to me illustrates the truth of the above book title. dogmatism on both sides?it seems the most ardent evoluttionist will admit some possibility of God-as long as he needed evolution to create us ,though dawkins has been critical of theologians who compromise what the bible plainly states!///

The problem is that one of those charts I posted (I won't call them ladders and offend anyone), explains very well the problem--there is no agreement on where very hominids of the past fit in. Some insist this or that hominid was a dead end but other think it lived on and contributed the the formation of H. sapiens. And they can't agree when these groups walked the earth--differences of a million or more years depending on the source you consult. Well, that's too much!!! A difference of 20,000 years is too much if the evolutionists are to be believed since modern humans came about in less time than that and built this civilization in half that time.

Human evolution is a shambles and it's about time they admit is a shambles. It's like one of those huge jigsaw puzzles and they have only a dozen or so pieces locked together and those aren't even locked to one another. Moreover, there's pieces of other puzzles mixed in that will have to be eliminated at some point. That's why that one chart differentiates between hominids and hominins. Hominids present extraneous pieces and we can't even agree on which groups belong in which category.

But to the public, they present this seemingly united front while behind the curtains it's a free for all.