Yes, Ake... Those of us with an real sense of history (as opposed to contemporary mythology which is currently being served up by the right as real history) fully understand that were are indeed "enslaved by the system"...

But inspite of GfinS's constant drumbeat that if you don't take up the mythology of the Tealiban that yer a "Democrat" with a large "D", that most of us on the left really are quite pragamatic, tolerant and willing to reach out to reasonabl;e people and reasonable thought processes...

I mean, let's get real... The extreme right is not all that different from the Taliban... They are dogmatic, intolerant of new ideas and are willing to use violence to get their way... This cannot be said of those of us on the left... That is a very imporatnt destinction that those on the right don't want to be allowed the light of day... No, it's far easier for them to say "You're either with us or you're against us"... That is a bogus premise... But that's what they are hell bent on selling becuase if they can get that to ***take*** then ***they*** think that any tactic they choose to use is okee-dokee...

This rationalization has been put forth over and over and over by GfinS as if she thinks she says it often enough then it will somehow transpose from mythology into reality...

In other words, "both sides" are not the same... One side, the right, is absolutely steeped in win'lose mentality and we on the left are more than willing to sit down and try to frind the pragamtic middle... That is reality...

I'm sick of hearing the right wing PR bullshit that we are this polorized society... That is pure BS... We have one side that refuses to play nice: the right... Period!!!

B~