Bobert....I know you are a good guy, and I have a lot of respect for your politics, but the latest financial crash must surely bring it home to you that the system respects neither left nor right...it is a law unto itself.

This type of economy requires to have continual growth to survive...the de-regulation of the banking system was not produced by a few greedy fat cats, it was actively encouraged by both a centre right govt in America and a centre left govt in Britain....nothing to do with party politics really, just survival of the system....and with the survival of the system we also get the survial of the system's political parties.

They had run out of options for growth....I have seen all the "booms", housing, land, manufacturing, IT. All that was left was "credit" and they played it for all we were worth.

Some day we've got to wake up and realise that Capitalism has moved on to pastures new....we are a backwater and must be prepared to adopt new values....we've got to ditch the present political set-up, the people who run it can no longer help us, they are now shown as the parasites we always secretly thought them to be.

It's difficult for we on the left, but we can never effect change by opposing the silent majority, we must destroy the ideology of evolutionary capitalism....no matter how dear it may be to the inhabitants of this time warp.