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Thread #131699   Message #2994454
Posted By: TheSnail
27-Sep-10 - 09:43 AM
Thread Name: BS: The God Delusion 2010
Subject: RE: BS: The God Delusion 2010
Smokey

Here's a bargain for y'all - be quick while it's going cheap.

'The Quantum Activist Course'

Dr Amit Goswami


Thanks for that, Smokey. Absolutely delightful. I think I might try some of that Quantum Naturopathy.

I notice Josep has made no further reference to Dr Goswami.

Thank you, Josep, for your postings of 24 Sep 10 - 08:09 PM and 08:11 PM. Might I suggest you read them and make an effort to understand them?

I would particularly draw your attention to -

"The laws of classical mechanics thus follow from the laws of quantum mechanics as a statistical average at the limit of large systems or large quantum numbers."

For an idea of what "large systems" means, take a look at this - http://www.av8n.com/physics/quantum-classical.htm

Ammonia is small and behaves as a quantum object, methylethylamine is large and does not (both at low temperatures) so a cat at room temperature (or above if it is alive)...? Taking atomic nuclei as single particles for the purpose of this argument, I reckon ammonia has 10 particles, methylethylamine has 37. A cat is going to be in the order of Avogadro's number per 10gms, about 10 to the power of 25 particles.

A cat is composed of quantum particles. It is not, of itself, a quantum object.

For whoever it was that said QM has proven nothing

Quantum Mechanics has not "proven" anything. Not because there is anything wrong with it but simply because it is a theory and that is not what theories do.

"Quantum mechanics had enormous success in explaining many of the features of our world."

"Quantum theory also provides accurate descriptions for many previously unexplained phenomena "

Theories explain and describe. They make predictions which can be tested by experiments which will either disprove them or provide supporting evidence (but never actually prove them to be true).

I suggest that you do some reading up on the theory of science before making pronouncements that Quantum Mechanics has proved anything about consciousness.