There were many good folks in Germany, doing many good things during WW2.There was the government organization, the Nazi regime,that was doing very bad things. Does the first group of good citizens, make the second, the Nazi regime, as an organization, any better?

This is an extreme case....and yes, maybe too extreme and unfair for this comparison. But, I feel a similar comparison can be considered when assessing the statement put forward in the original debate that Fry participated in.

Are local parishoners having bake sales to help refuges in Haiti doing enough to negate the other bad stuff in the RC organization (pope, bishops, cardinals and priests included. and we can even throw in nuns and monks to help it out), past and present?