Mick, I feel that some of the traditionalists can be fixed and they do fixedly argue their place, but surely this - a folk discussion forum - is the very place for them to do that. Like LC says, it keeps this place alive. Squidgeypants or whatever it called itself must have been high to suppose that these old grumps have any genuine 'power' in the folk world bar that of interest to amateur 'traditionalists' such as myself. That power belongs to festival organisers, the EFDSS, commercial promoters and indeed magazine editors like Anderson, and NOT to a bare handful of traditionalists grumping amongst themselves on Mudcat.