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Thread #132437   Message #3004880
Posted By: The Fooles Troupe
11-Oct-10 - 10:06 PM
Thread Name: BS: True Test of an Atheist
Subject: RE: BS: True Test of an Atheist
"Is there a belief that God does not exist?

If so that sounds like the basis for a religion to me."


This is the delightful irrational brainwashing that the Theists NEED to confuse people with.

That statement of yours demonstrates a typical confusion in Semantics & Rational Human Logic of those who eat their cake and want it still - Since Religion consists in believing (to the extent of unshakably KNOWing) that there are invisible powerful magic sky fairies who are beyond all human understanding, the mere denial of that position, by definition, cannot be a 'Religion'.

You never heard of Venn Diagrams in Formal Logic, did you? The Theist position is totally inside one circle - the a-theist position is all what is outside that circle, and never the twain can meet.

And then since it is claimed that Religion is 'beyond all human understanding', thus, by definition of those who hold that Religious Belief, 'mere' Rational Human Logic cannot apply to that Belief. :-)

The 'True' A-Theists - just refuse to accept the 'beyond all human understanding' bit, that's all, which places them totally outside that circle of 'Religious Belief'. Which is why they are considered a irreconcilably fatal hostile threat by those who take the 'beyond all human understanding' stance seriously.

Simple, isn't it? :-)

Now for those who are called 'Religious Atheists', they are not, they are 'Proselytizing Atheists' who are not really any different from 'Proselytizing Theists' - both NEED to 'convince others in order to convince themselves', like many of those who undergo various 12 Step programs - the actual 'Internal Belief' is irrelevant to the actual 'observed external behavior'.