mrrzy-either you were speed reading,or maybe/probably i was not entirely clear but not every expert agreed entirely with your assertion on when a feotus feels pain,there being a variation of professional opinion.
ron-glad to have your imput,stating what i also believed but did not consider myself scholarly enough to be so definite.i congratulate the atheists who set themselves high morals and stick to them just out of evolutionary conviction.knowing how wayward my own heart is,i would change my morals to suit the opportunities, if not for love of my saviour-and am still a lot less than perfect!
on a radio debate an atheist philosopher very graciously stated that people of religious convictions have contributed more good causes than atheists.do we have any reliable stats on that,in view of dawkins apparently thinking the world would be better if we all turned atheist/!.