"we are of course all guilty before God"

Not me. If I do bad things I'm guilty before people. That's whom I have to answer to.

"thanks for your civil post on abortion.point taken,though 'usually' does admit that abortions do happen later in term also,and many call for no limits."

Yep, that's me. Limits are always going to be artificial and arbitrary and the setting of them is always severely influenced by moralisers, mostly of the religious kind who can't help wanting to impose their fake morals and spurious emotional arguments on the whole of humanity. Setting limits is not the way to reduce abortion numbers. I could tell you again about better education aimed at equipping young people to make good life choices and teaching them how to respect themselves and others. Making contraception and contraceptive advice freely-available. A concerted drive to eradicate poverty and ignorance. But I don't think you're listening. So let's just keep abortion numbers high instead.