You know Joe, that is one of the things that is so misunderstood by some critics of the church, various affiliated organizations and members at large. Once someone has espoused faith these critics narrow their view and watch and wait to see if they stumble and should they well, to them, that is some kind of confirmation that it is all bogus. They've missed the point entirely.

Yes the person has changed. They are re-oriented towards God and that which is good but they are still human beings, imperfect. All stumble and fall but they get back up and continue on in the right direction, forgiven, under grace.

The ones who give, in the broadest sense of the word, religion, a black eye are the ones who are hiding out in a religion, using it for their own wrong purposes. And sad to say, religion is not the only place these type are hanging out. Every organizatin has klnown them.