Hi, all!

Wow, this thread has been getting HOT while I was taking a break from it!
I have just read ALL of this very long thread, and have a few points:

1. Wolfgang and other "skeptics" are in this thread because they wish to discuss the unexplained. They have all (I think) said several times that they wish that parapsychology could be proven to be real. They are coming in with a point of view that is valid to them, and is not meant to be denigrating to those people who have experienced these things in other ways.

2. Those of us who have experienced unexplained things, and accepted the "spiritual" explanation(s) for those things, are getting very frustrated in trying to explain those things to the "skeptics". This has gone on for several threads, and we are getting a bit weary. I stopped reading this thread for a few days, to think and regroup. This thread is a lot of work!

3. I have experienced things that I can't explain. They probably could be explained, but where would Mystery dwell, then? (That probably makes me a "gullible" softie, but I don't mind.)

4. Ritual connects people to one another. Beliefs connect people to one another. Some people think that people are more important than facts. Some people think that people are facts, and facts are important. Do you see the difference there?

5. I think that it would have been more considerate if Wolfgang had sent a PM to Carol about her "innacuracies", and after discussing it with her, asking to use it as an example for his students, rather than announcing to all of Mudcat that he was going to do that. I find that to be rude, actually. But we all make mistakes. (And here I have singled Wolfgang out, and should have probably sent him a PM about it. (Sorry!))

Wolfgang, I have bookmarked that Skeptics site, and will peruse it at leisure.

Respectfully,
Chagall