Maybe "moral" is more cultural then but then so can religion be.

Where do we stand on say Christianity (the only one who's texts I have read) leads to a consistent view, I don't know. My own reading would make Christ sort of socialist but I believe there are for example red hot republican Christians.

Like you Jack, I could pass comment "when I was an atheist" , Not all makes sense to me though. I've thought "a thousand times" I understand it but still both in deed and understanding do not seem to be there.