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Thread #131699   Message #3013943
Posted By: Steve Shaw
23-Oct-10 - 07:18 PM
Thread Name: BS: The God Delusion 2010
Subject: RE: BS: The God Delusion 2010
"i read literature that demonstrated the absurdity of evolution -that is, macro evolution .as far as i know there are no intermediate forms-at least as proven so.though evolutionary scientists aplenty ,there are many scientists that disagree and present scientific reasons for their dissention .even if you are an evolutionist a first cause somehow got it started,but for me a creator is the most reasonable.creation.com has lots of science on the subject,though rubbished by atheists."

You're clutching at straws. Darwin's simple explanation of evolution by natural selection explains the whole of life on earth in a way which can be expressed in a single sentence. Nothing in his theory needs extra explanation. It takes nothing for granted. It uses only evidence. Yet here you are trying to bolt on a Godly first cause, one which is so complex that we'll never be able to explain it, let alone actually get any evidence for it, which we can't and never will be able to. It's a cop-out, Pete. The onus is on you to try to justify this intellectual dereliction (there's no way of putting it any more kindly than that). Oh, and if you actually take the trouble to read your Darwin, you'll find that he addresses the issue of the alleged lack of intermediates most elegantly. That one's belly-up, I'm afraid.

"having established for myself that God is creator and the bible is trustworthy,it is no problem believing in the virgin birth and resurrection."

Where's your evidence that the Bible is trustworthy? Why do you really *want* to believe in the completely unnecessary and patronising myth of the virgin birth? And wasn't Jesus already good enough for you without the jiggerypokery of an alleged resurrection? Why do you need that?

"steve-interesting you being affronted by all these churches-did,nt i read somewhere that you like to visit them[historical heritage],not to mention an interest in religious classical music?!"

I didn't say I was affronted, did I. I merely accused religion of being arrogant enough to flaunt its iconography in all our faces, whatever our creed or none. But architecture and art is as much my heritage as it is yours. I think you'd rather like to me say that I want all cathedrals demolished. Sorry, can't oblige there. Exactly the same with my religious music. Why, only this afternoon I was singing along lustily with the fugue at the end of the Gloria of Mozart's C minor Mass. Annoying bugger, aren't I? Would you Christians like to claim it exclusively for yourselves?