Don't worry about 'em, John. In real life I'm the most affable, cheerful, harmonica-playing bloke you could ever wish to meet. I enjoy these threads (being a bit of a pervert I suppose) because they always end with these Christians, their specious arguments totally exhausted, huffing, puffing and stooping to childish insults. Jack insults me now in just every post. I hope Jesus isn't watching him. Tee hee.