Deliberate misrepresentation spiced with disingenuousness there from Jack. It is perfectly possible for atheists to all think more or less the same way yet not be be organised into groups. I know loads of atheists round here and I don't think any of them are in atheistic groups of any kind. The central point about atheists is that there isn't much to what they think on this topic anyway. It's a bit like Darwin's big idea: you can sum it up in a sentence. I'm sure there's lots of waffle around the edges, and it's all very interesting, but there's one big idea: the likelihood of the existence of a being who breaks all the laws of nature, who is far more complex than the complexities he's supposed to be there to explain, and for whom there is no evidence, is infinitesimally small. I can see other ways of expressing it, and there may be differing shades of perspective, but I have a shrewd suspicion that that's about it for most atheists. They may join clubs, they may not. They may go out in big Christian-hunting posses for all know, but I've never seen 'em. There's no big atheist conspiracy going on. Just a bit of free speech, that's all. We don't need big groups but I'm sure they're out there for those of gregarious nature. You can collect stamps on your own or you can gang up with hundreds of others of like mind. Less of the dark side, please. There isn't one.