>>>I don't know what numbers you'd like, joeyboy. Hundreds. Thousands. Bugger, I've forgotten, numbers what of. I have a sneaky suspicion that you think that the only atheists in the world are the ones who post on Mudcat. It's a little world here and there's a much bigger one outside the door and I am firmly of it, believe it or not (you have to be at my age as the www wasn't invented until well past my mid-life pseudocrisis). I talk the atheistic talk with a lot of people (as you can imagine), though I do lots of other things as well. Would you like to buy my CD? I can cheerfully concede that some poor atheists may well form themselves into groups but if they do I have no idea why they do. When I say "we" I'm simply assuming that the people I'm bracketing myself with share the same, irreducible, big atheistic idea. I'm not including their wacky or unwacky variations and nuances. I talk about the people who play in my session as "we," but the term is seriously circumscribed. I am happy to think that you are an entirely different breed of atheist to me and that you would rather speak for yourself (you have your reasons). All I can tell you is that every other atheist I've ever met (so far) holds to the same big idea: the possibility that a being exists who breaks all the laws of physics, who must be far more complex than the complex things he's supposed to be there to explain, and for whom there isn't a scrap of evidence, is vanishingly small. I'm happy to bracket people who agree with me on that simple notion as "we." If you have a different take, pray tell us instead of just telling us all the time that we are all wrong about everything in the world.

Hey Joey, have you ever hung around outside a gymnasium...? <<<

Nope, not loony at all... Not one little bit.