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Thread #133103   Message #3020481
Posted By: Teribus
01-Nov-10 - 01:10 AM
Thread Name: BS: Has Afghanistan become another Vietnam?
Subject: RE: BS: Has Afghanistan become another Vietnam?
"You don't have the necessary information if you believe the baloney that the rate has been reduced by 96% to 11 per day. What is your source of information?

Numbers killed in Afghanistan between April 1978 and October 2001 have been reported and "estimated" at between 1,500,000 and 2,100,000 - Source any number of internet sites covering the Soviet Invasion and occupation of Afghanistan

US pressured the UNSC to do its bidding in 1998? I think UNSC Resolutions relating to Afghanistan being regarded as a failed state date back long before 9/11 and before GWB even thought of running for office.

22nd October 1996 UNSC Resolution 1076
28th August 1998 UNSC Resolution 1193
8th December 1998 UNSC Resolution 1214
15th October 1999 UNSC Resolution 1267

"As the situation unfolded, the UN continued its role in promoting dialogue among Afghan parties, aimed at establishing a broad-based, inclusive government. On 3 October (2001), the Secretary-General reappointed Lakhdar Brahimi, who had resigned two years earlier, as his Special Envoy for Afghanistan.

On 12 November, the "Six plus Two" group met in New York under the chairmanship of the Secretary-General, agreeing on the need for a broad-based and freely chosen Afghan government and pledging continued support for UN humanitarian efforts in Afghanistan, as well as in refugee camps in neighbouring States. On 27 November, a conference on Afghanistan's reconstruction sponsored by UNDP, the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank, opened in Islamabad. Over 300 participants attended, including many from Afghanistan. Issues discussed included the role of women, the importance of education and the creation of a comprehensive health system.
A further donor conference -- focusing on the immediate and longer-term needs of the country -- was held in Berlin in early December.

Meanwhile, the Northern Alliance had entered Mazar-e-Sharif, Herat and then Kabul - a decisive event in the defeat of the Taliban. The United Nations organized a meeting of Afghan political leaders in Bonn in late November. When it concluded on 5 December, the four groups represented, including the Northern Alliance, signed an agreement on a provisional arrangement pending re-establishment of permanent government institutions in Afghanistan.

As a first step, the Afghan Interim Authority was established. On 20 December, the Security Council, by resolution 1386 (2001), authorized the establishment of an International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) to help the Authority maintain security in Kabul and its surrounding areas. On 22 December, in Kabul, the internationally recognized administration of President Rabbani handed power to the new Interim Afghan Administration, established in Bonn and headed by Chairman Hamid Karzai. Special Representative Brahimi moved to Kabul to commence his activities in support of the new Afghan Administration. At the same time, the first of the ISAF troops were deployed, under British control. - Source UN News Centre


Stringsinger any mention of GWB or the US in any of that? If my information is skewed and incorrect then so is that of the United Nations, I suggest that you get in touch with them and put them straight, after all what the hell would they know about it compared to yourself, who no doubt attended and chaired every meeting dealing with the unfolding situation.

Afghan civilian casualties since 2006:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/aug/10/afghanistan-civilian-casualties-statistics

Afghan civilian casualties since October 2001:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_of_the_War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%93present)

You seem to have Iraq and Afghanistan confused. Bitterly disappointed no doubt with how things turned out for the US in Iraq you now have transferred your attentions to Afghanistan, exactly what special "inside track" your preferred sources of information have on Afghanistan is not made clear by two journalists with clear anti-US agenda cannot be considered as being objective or impartial.