Yeah, sure Marx had a different definition of "capitalism" in his mind. I'm not him, and I don't share his views on that at all. I am not a Marxist. I too believe in a mixed economy, just as you do. That's what we have in the USA and Canada...a mixed economy. That's what I believe in.

Neither socialism nor capitalism are words that should be used as pejoratives.

Obama is no socialist! His health care bill was primarily a big windfall for the private health insurance companies, because it got them a lot more customers...by legislation rather than by choice! I think the health insurance industry's lobbyists were probably the primary architects of Obama's bill. As long as your people have to pay a fortune for health insurance and health care, pdq, you are not getting a socialist health care plan.

The whole principle of a socialist health care plan is that it spreads the very high cost of health care around evenly among the entire tax-paying public...at a very affordable price. Most people aren't sick most of the time. That means if we all share in the cost of health care, we can all afford it, but if we don't all share...if it comes down to YOU ALONE when you're sick to cover the cost.....trust me..........you can't afford it.

That's the principle of defence funding too, pdq. The tax system spreads the cost around evenly among the entire public...rather than just billing a few directly affected individuals when an emergency arises. And that way everyone can afford the very high cost of maintaining an armed forces. THAT's socialism! Without it, you could not afford to field an army, navy, and air force.

Same goes for the fire department.

How can you not see that this is what's needed to provide affordable health care?

Here's a tip: Obama is not doing that. He's continuing with passing on huge costs to people for private health insurance. He is NOT practicing socialism. He is not a socialist. He's a servant to entrenched corporate interests, just like all your previous presidents were.