well i bid on a haruo 12 string on ebasy and went to bed, i won! it came todayand i have to say it is special. it was under fout hundred bucks with shipping and plays better and sounds better than thre guild i had years ago. thanks to this list i got one. i had never heard of haruo before, so it was a usefull education.

i tuned it a tone below standard to start with but it certainly shows no trouble. i have a 12 string capo from my old guild and i used on my yamaha to get to pitch.

i am really impressed with the sound, playability all the wayn up the neck and the workmanship. good action is particularly nice as i finger pick the twevle most of the time--it really is the way to go-- but tough action up the neck is the bane if 12 string finger pickers.

this rivals the ted thompson 12 i played in toronto at twelveth frett, which i thought was the best 12 i had played in years, so thanaks for thew heads up. i great guitar i can afford